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I have heard it said that ghosts/spirits have to follow certain "rules" in the afterlife. Why would there be rules? Is there a judicial system that holds them accountable if they break the rules? I wonder if this is just an unsaid code of conduct observed in other dimensions to prevent chaos and widespread panic amongst the living.....? If there is a set of rules then there are many who don't abide by it by making themselves known. What are your thoughts? Lisa B.

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Hi Lisa,
Some of the spirits that I have talked to have told me about "rules" such as they are not supposed to interfere with our lives or reveal their names. I had one spirit (a child) tell me the name of another spirit - the other spirit was totally pissed and flew out of the house at warp speed when he found out. I do not know if there are more "rules", and no idea if there is anyone/thing monitoring rule-breakers. I am not sure about "many who don't abide by it". I think there are many spirits around us, yet we are only disturbed by a few - at least it does not seem like many to me.
Why are there rules? My guess would be that most people who encounter personal activity are very disturbed and unsettled by it. There are a few who like it and it certainly can be good for a business, but private homeowners usually just want it to stop. In these situations, it seems like harassment- which is not socially acceptable in our world.
I think we can only speculate.

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What an interesting topic. I never thought of rules in the afterlife. But I guess it would only make sense to some degree. Or we would have rampant spirits about just maybe haunting everyone everywhere I would think. Maybe they can only haunt certain places they have been as part of the rule. The name thing is interesting too Whitelight. I never thought there was a rule on that. Interesting stuff indeed. I wonder who or what or thing monitors all the different spirits and if they are like assigned to a certain amount of spirits like a social worker?? Wow I like this and the thought I wonder if there is anything on the internet about that. I will have to look that up now got my curiousity up now on this one. Thanks for the post.

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I'm not sure I'd call them 'rules', but there are probably limits to what a spirit can accomplish. I also wonder if there are 'levels', meaning the longer you've been there perhaps the more you're able to do? Interesting subject!
Dale

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I never thought of that Dale.. interesting question there. Levels like more seniority and stuff. That is a really interesting question I hope someone has the answers though. thanks for bringing it up now it has me curious :)

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Hans Holzer did a few interviews where he talked about people under hypnosis doing past life regressions, and not even being from the same continent, let alone country, have described the exact same thing about the afterlife. According to them, after you die, you "check in", with a clerk and either "sign up" for an assignment, like a muse would finding someone to inspire, or you sign in for re-incarnation. Or you can just hang out and observe things for a while on our side. But after a while, you are given an assignment to either help or hinder a person....depending on who they are. So according to them, their are a set of rules for each "spirit", depending on the specific situation.

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Thanks kaspr,
That really validates what I have been told by a few spirits. I wonder which assignment I'll choose....interesting......

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kaspr very interesting. Like whitelight..i wonder which assignment I will choose also ;)
Probably be a little rascal in the afterlife and hinder a naughty person! A really bad person I don't want to hinder an innoccent..but just be a pain in their bum! lol :)
Especially when they do wrong things :)
I think i would like that assignment...well very interesting stuff thank you for sharing :)

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I think I'd like to hinder someone who does evil things in this life, if I get a choice. Scare the beJesus out of them!
Dale

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I am quite shaken and happy. I have just this hour received an EVP from my son!!!He spoke to me through a small Sony cassette recorder just as plan as can be. It was the very first time I tried to do this and I was telling him that I love him and that he could talk back if he wished to. When I listened back to it I heard a few "blips" while I was talking and just after that he said "its me". My heart went into my chest and it is still beating like crazy. I let my earthy son listen and he said there are rules in the afterlife, that if you are trying to reach a particular spirit the other ones cannot come through and those "blips" could have been other spirits trying to come through or maybe him. He was 18 last year, at the time of the accident, but he sounded younger though it was his voice!I also have some pictures of an orb on my bedroom ceiling.This is all so new to me.I wonder what to do next.

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Angela, First off let me say I am sorry for your loss of your child.
I cannot imagine losing one of my children to anything.
Illness, an accident, anything. I am soo sorry, my deepest sympathy to you and your family.
I know it has only been a year since your loss, and I am sure missing him is still with you as it always will be, and I am sure you are still grieving, as I would be as well at the loss of my child.

But may I heed a warning here. 
I think it is wonderful your son spoke to you don't get me wrong here when I state this please,  But do remember that other entities can still come across, entities that can be playing your son but they are NOT your son..
And they are evil.
So please heed this warning..
Also where you are new to this. Be careful with the EVP sessions.. I have heard in the past that doing too many EVP's can lead to other things coming into your home, no different then a Ouija Board, you can open a door to other things arriving and coming to your home.
Meaning you end up  with major a haunting in your home.

I think it is great you are getting stuff from your pictures.  I have never heard of any repercussions from many pictures. But be careful how deeply you get into the EVPs please.
And whatever you do don't go out and buy a Ouija Board... Please! That is not a game.

I know you are probably still grieving.  And you are at your weakest point and they are liable to take advantage of that.. so just be really cautious please.. that is all I wanted to say...
And I do think it is great that you and your son were able to contact one another.







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Thank you Mainemom. I do miss my son with every single breath I take. When you loose a child you so badly want to know they are not just gone (as some people put it).I do understand what you are saying about the bad spirits. We are Christian, as well, and speaking to the dead is forbidden. I am sure that is the reason.My friends and I had a bad experience with a Ouija board when I was a teen. I have been reading a lot about the afterlife, spirit phenomenon and contact since his passing. I am afraid he might be confused as his death was very sudden and unexpected and our home is where he feels he should stay. It is a very old house,too. I seem to be frozen at this point and am just listening to this recording over and over. I will probably end up taking it and my orb pictures to someone professional. I thank you again for your caring concern.

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We are also Christians, no denomination.. It is just what I have read and learned from this forum as well to just be careful doing many EVPs  sometimes it can still open doorways.
I understand what you are saying with the death of him being so sudden.. that he may be lost, and confused, and that moving on into the light may be he is not ready to do so yet. He may have had a lot of unfinished things as well as he was young.. I am glad though that if he is there, that he is at home and safe with family.
Do keep us posted on this though. I am not trying to say it was not him. It probably was.
But I am glad you are taking the evidence to a professional to look at.
And if nothing else ask this professional if there is something more you can do safely to speak more with your son, it will hurt to let him go to the other side, but maybe you can lead him to the light so he is at peace and not lost and confused in your home. Just a thought.
Maybe the professional can help you with this as well.
Again please keep us all posted. We would like to know how it is going for you and the family.
Thanks again for dropping in and joining our group as well :)
And posting.

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Angela - So sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the pain you're going through! If you'd like our team to listen to the EVP and peek at your pics, we'd be happy to do that for you. Just email them to maineghosts@yahoo.com or contact us through our website at maineghosts.org and we'll do what we can to help you!

Hope to hear from you!

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Oh yes, thank you, that would be great! I have been puzzled at who to go to with this kind of information since this happened last Sunday. I have listened to many EVPs online that say they are clear. But none seem as clear to me as this one. I would never post it on u-tube because if it is my dear son, putting it on display like that does not seem respectful to his memory. Also it would break my heart for people to say it is faked. I just need to figure out how to get it on my email from the tape (I am not very hi tech). The orb pictures will be easy. I have felt so alone since his death. (But I do have 2 other teenage sons). Friends and family have gone on about their own lives and have forgotten or else maybe some are afraid they will say something that might cause me to cry. It is not something many understand. I am also a single mom so I dont have a partner to share these things with either. It feels like it helps to open up a little, even with people I don't see. Thank you. I will try to email the EVP and orb pictures as soon as I can.    Angela

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That is awesome and they will help you too even further if you want it.. :) I have known this group from it's very beginnings and they are a wonderful, honest and caring group for everyone..
I know you will find truthful and helpful answers and guidance in your time of need with them..
I really feel good with these guys :) they are the greatest group out there.. really caring of those in need..
Please do keep us posted and Angela don't hesitate, contact any of us, including myself if you ever feel a need to contact someone.. I do check my mail everyday :)

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Hi Angela, 
I am so sorry for your loss. I think it takes a very, very long time to come to terms with such a tragedy, and even then, I think people just finally get used to a new "normal".  It can never, ever be again as it once was. It isn't fair, it isn't right and it tests the human spirit beyond what many of us will ever have to endure in our lives.
I wonder if you have ever considered a support group? You do need to find other people who will openly talk about your son and life now without him. Please consider this for yourself and other boys.

I agree with mainemom and EVPs.

There does seem to be some connection with continued EVP work and hauntings.
In my experience, I have never come across a spirit who was confused about their death, or who did not know how to "move on". I have met spirits that do not move on because they feel responsible for the people they have left behind. If you believe in an afterlife, then you must believe that your son is in a better place ~a place without fear, and suffering and bliss beyond our comprehension. Loving parents want only good things for their children and that does not change even after death, (ours or theirs). Trust that he is where he needs to be. He will always watch over you and love you, and you will be reunited one day. Trust and love so deeply that you can say goodbye.
Sending prayers and light, Whitelight

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Whitelight is so right..
I am glad she came on to help with this topic..
Very good advice.
I have heard as well that sometimes spirits stay in a place or a home because a loved one a parent or maybe a spouse cannot let them go and start "searching" for them in the afterlife and won't let them go.. Letting them go.. is the best thing for them so that they can move on..
You don't have to let them go in your heart or mind but don't hang on to them so tight that they are in limbo either... or that they cannot move on..
But a group or counsel with a person that does therapy for loss of a loved one is not a bad idea not just for you Angela but for the whole family..
Prayers and Blessings to you and your family.. remember we are always here to listen and advise the best we can :)

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Oh, I am just so tired. I wish there were more hours in the day. There are so many "maybes". I wish there were more "for sures" so I can know when I am doing wrong things. Grief is such hard work. Yes, we have been to counseling. No one knows just how it is. Counselors have not had the experiences, only studied them. I have never felt such deep guilt for what would have been normal, everyday things. Anyway,  Whitelight, I watched Victor Zammits video on what happens when you die, he has a list of about 10 or so things, getting confused is one of them if sudden death. And not "moving on" if there is unfinished business. What does it mean when  you say to be "in a better place" or "moving on" or "letting them go"? You see, I had not given much thought to these things before. A mother wants to know where her child is and if he needs help. I am still his mom. This unknown is leaving a huge hole in me. Maybe if that orb picture hadnt been in my bedroom, I dont know, does anybody really know the right things to do under these circumstances? I hope I am not stopping the natural order of things by missing him. The guilt is so very hard.

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Angela, may I ask of you to call Julie and call her soon.. you sound like you need some body who really can feel what you are feeling and you have many questions that I know Julie and/or Robin can help you with even maybe Summer or Whitelight..
believe me they are very good this whole group with the after life thing.. there are a lot of questions with spirits and the after life.. trust me we only know what we know..
and what we learn unfortunately as we have not died yet.. so who knows what can happen to us when we do die..

I will do the best here to explain some of your questions though..

What is meant by: "A Better Place"
When a person dies, sometimes from a painful illness..a painful accident, a deadly and painful disease, etc.. they are in a better place..
They don't have to deal with all the pain and the agony of what they were dealing with before.
In your case a better place for him is that he is with family..that has gone on maybe a close loved one that has passed and he is being held and loved where he is at and not lost..
When we say: "Moving On" or "Letting Them Go"
First let me touch base with Moving on.. that would be the white light to cross over to and with to get to the other side, or whatever it is that one goes into to cross over that spirits leave this Earth of limbo and move on.. to wherever they are supposed to be where they are at peace and live their next life in death.
Letting Them Go kind of goes with that moving on..
In order for them to get to that place where they have peace and can live in death on the other side, where we cannot go yet, until we die, we have to Let Them Go. Sometimes Spirits know that we are hanging on to them.. and so they may feel they need to be with us until we can let go of them.. they maybe feel obligated to us the living that loved them.. that we are not ready to let them go..
Please call the group their number and such is on the website that we have of how to contact them and I do believe that they have it in their profiles on here as well.. just click on the above right and ask for their help I know that they can help  you through this and advise you better then me. :)

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