What Happens When You Die?

Hey jules, it's fidge :) If a client were to come to me with questions about the afterlife, I would probably give them a general answer. i.e "Spirits will stay behind because they either don't know they are dead, don't want to believe they have died, or because they feel that they have not completed their mission here in the physical world." If they wanted me to elaborate I feel what I would offer would be purely based on my beliefs, or the beliefs of others. Leaving it up to the individual to decide what it is they want to believe. Even my own beliefs have not yet been fully concluded. I'm always learning new things. :)
I will say however, that any questions thrown my way will not be soley based on my opinion, but that I will do the research required to answer your questions as best as I can.

Heather
MGHS Lead Investigator

I have to agree with Fidget.
I have always thought those three things with spirits.
Which hence, keeps them here with us.
And if they refuse to leave and don't want to move on. Let them be as long as they are not up to a lot of harm I don't feel a need to push them out of the place they are in, if they are happy :)

I agree mainemom to an extent. Yes i don't feel we should push them out It could lead to problems. And if we don't know why they are still here, we can't really help them. They could be here because they fear there may be punishment for them on the other side for mistakes they have made in life. They may be content here among the living but I believe that by staying here they have put themselves in their own "hell" feelings of being lonely, scared, angry, sad, guilty, whatever it may be... it's haunting them here.

What are your thoughts on this? :)

That is true. But if they don't really mind it and if you contact them somehow, EVP's and/or some other ways and really truly find out from them somehow that they are really happy there and have no want to move to the other side, then I feel not bothering them is fine. They may one day move on. You never know. One day they are just gone.
But if they feel that they want to be on the other side and are lonely for their loved ones or feel there would be punishment on the other side for being on the other side, for some things they think were bad in life. Then it should be conducted that they are forgiven and moved on.. either way I try to make it the spirit's want. I know that sounds really weird. But I have heard of some instances where the spirit just did not want to move on and wanted to be left alone litterally and live with a family friend of mine and her family..and she got mad when she was given the chance to move on and leave..things were not quiet in the home, until they stopped trying to rid of the spirit, now things are back in harmony. Although there is still the problem of is this really a spirit and not an evil entity? There is always that catch as well. But evil eventually always comes out evil. Usually. This was more harmonious with the family and the home. It was a previous owner of the home that just wanted to live in their home and nothing more. Now as far as I know things are still at peace. and ok.
I understand completely your point of view there and agree with it, but if the spirit really does not want to vacate, then so be it :)
That is what I was really trying to state I guess :)

I have put off answering this question, because I really didnt know how I wanted to respond. I guess the reason a spirit would remain earthbound would depend on the spirit itself. Whether it is here because it feels there is more in life they should have accomplished, or because the death was so quick that they really don't realize they have passed. Maybe it is just a friend or relative checking on us from time to time. Then you have residual hauntings that are just imprints of time gone by.....are these really ghosts or are they just a 'ghost movie', and the actual spirit of the people potrayed in the movie have gone on to their afterlife?
I believe that you could never rid your house of a residual haunting, because those spirits aren't really present. I also believe that other types of hauntings happen by the spirits free will to be there and you could possibly persuade them to leave, but you can not force them to leave. It may be a matter of just explaining that they are dead and that they need to move on, or it may take some investigating to figure out why they are there and then communicating to them that they do not need to remain earthbound. But ultimately, it is up to them. I don't think there is a cut and dry answer, and every case is going to be different and will need to be handled on an individual basis. Lisa B.

I do agree with that. I certainly would never want to push a spirit too hard into leaving. I just think that if the opportunity presents itself it should be attempted, once.

My opinion goes along with most, if a spirit remains earthbound it's an individual thing. They either refuse to leave for some reason or they don't realize they're dead. We always hear "go into the light" but some may not see the light because they have more to do before they go. I think I would want to stick around a while just to see what I can do or see from the other side.
I do wonder if we are allowed to check in on our loved ones now and then after we cross over, that's my hope anyway.
Dale

I agree with Bunsi that we should try to assist spirits to move on. As a paranormal investigator I feel that in order to assist a spirit on their journey I need to gather as much information as possible in order to know how best to accomplish this. Once all the evidence is reviewed it may prove that the spirit is ready to go. Or it may show that another investigation is necessary to gather more information before making that decision. Or it may show that the spirit is not yet done accomplishing what they need to to be able to successfully move on. If that is the case then it will have to be delicately handled to make sure the family can cope with a spirit continuing to remain in their home a little while longer, if not indefinately. I dont believe in the "go to the light" theory....lol...there are too many variations in religion for that to be able to cover them all......I believe we can come back to check on our loved ones ........I plan on "checking" on a few.............lol........Lisa B.

hello first i have too say all of the post's on the after life are right on the money. My take on it is when we die we become a energy source of some type now im not a expert but i believe this and when we become this energy source after death we are some what in control of our actions but i also believe there is a higher power im not sure what or who it is but when we are in front of this higher energy power it decides if we pass on too the light and if we dont then we are damned too hell such as existing among the liveing for eternity hence in spirt form. Also i believe some spirts become lost in a sea of lost souls and never find there way out or too the light. thank you

Because there are so many belief systems out there I do not believe that it is our religious preference that matters when trying to help those in conflict who have already passed over. Whether they are going on to "Heaven", "Avalon", or "Ching Tu", or whether they are destined to continuous re-birth; it is their religious beliefs that matter when deciding how to help them along to whatever afterlife awaits them. For example, if I were a spirit who believed I should have gone to Ching Tu and someone was trying to tell me to move on to Asamando, or go into the light, then I would not know what you were talking about. But knowing why they remain here is still the biggest obstacle to overcome to being able to help them move on.
Lisa B.

Helping them to move on is fine. As long as they want to move on though is the key trick to them all. As all of you have stated. Not all want to go to the light for whatever reason. I guess we will know our destiny when we all die. With my luck i will be recycled and put back on the earth to start all over again LOL! But hopefully not as a lost soul or in limbo. I really feel for those spirits. A residual haunting though where they are going about doing the last thing or the thing they normally do. Sometimes I feel that is a haunting of something they loved to do and they just are stuck in doing it. Not really thought of it as a movie though. That maybe. That the actual spirit maybe gone. Not sure on that one. As they don't notice anyone around them. so maybe. Very interesting thoughts though on all of this. Thanks everyone for sharing.

I love this discussion and all the comments are so intriguing. I used to wonder about this all the time myself. Here are my thoughts - they have changed over the years but here is what I believe today and why. I was told once by a spirit as a sort of "thank you" (very long story) that spirits know they are dead. Often investigators will ask the spirit if they know they are dead and more often then not you will get an EVP saying something like "no sh--t!" or other colorful language. The spirit told me there are only two reasons why people do not move on. They either do not want to (free-will) for whatever reason, or they cannot. For some, they must remain behind in a sort of purgatory. This can last for years to decades depending. All the spirits I have personally encountered know they are dead. I can also tell if they are bound to the earth or can freely leave. I will tell you that both types can be troublesome, but overall they all seem to want to be left alone.

Whitelight

i think if i was a spirit roaming the earth i would want to be left alone as well. I don't know what will happen when i die. But it is interesting to read all the experiences and insights on here on this topic, thank you all for sharing. I appreciate.

I am not quite sure why people want to be ghost hunters. If you have a need to communicate with the other side - just ask. It makes me and many of the spirits I communicate with laugh when people use all kinds of contraptions to communicate. From what I have learned all you need is an open mind and an open heart. Be sure to ask your own spirit guides or guardian angels to protect you. This keeps out any unwanted guests. I am a Reiki Master and Teacher but I find that the healing provided is usually way beyond Reiki. I don't ask, I just offer healing to those in need. Just like UPS - deliver the healing energy to those in need.

I live in an old farm house and I have many guests. These guests were former residents of the house and I thank them for sharing their home with me. I find that spirits usually hang out in a place that makes them happy (you would be surprised at how many spirits hang around a family reunion or event)or sometimes one that brought them pain or sadness. Most are not "stuck" Some are still trying to heal and have difficulty letting go.

I have a picture of a street in Old Orchard and in the picture you can see a figure in the picture leaning against a wall. He is not stuck - he just likes Old Orchard Beach and people watching.

I and many people like me go about our daily lives and communicate with the "other side" on a daily basis. It is really not such a big deal. It is very much like communicating with a friend or mentor. We use no props, candles, crystals and such - we just talk and listen.

You would be amazed at how many people communicate with spirits but are afraid to admit because they are afraid of being ridiculed.

Is there life after death? Definitely! I experienced a "near death experience " a couple of years ago and it is definitely quite the experience.I have communicated with many of my deceased friends and relatives. A couple of them were a surprise - never knew they passed.

People talk about orbs in pictures and I have many pictures taken at my house and the pictures are full of orbs. Sometimes I can look in the distance and I see thousands of orbs. So, I believe that what many call heaven or the afterlife is all around us.

People hunt for ghosts or spirits and in reality they are all around us.

My belief is that we formulate a life plan before we are born in which we agree to follow a predefined path. It is a path of learning and one we repeat many times.

Oh, if this is the group that made the "buck an ear" joke for the pirate - he was very amused. I also hear that spirits are sometimes confused and sometimes rather amused when people call on them and then run when they speak.

Just a few observations - I respect people and whatever they believe. My comments are merely my opinion based on my experiences and communications.

One thing my spirit guides have taught me is that if you make a promise to never hurt another human being - it pretty much covers it all.

Light Warrior first I want to welcome you here to the group and find your comments really intriguing and eye opening.
I guess our happy home is why we have spirits that walk through on occassion then. :)
I commend you for having such a gift, or vision as well and being able to live and cope with it, it is awesome! And how you use it as well. The healing and all. I just wanted to compliment you on that. I know for some it is really hard to deal with and/or understand.
Thanks again for leaving your comments and we hope that we hear from you on ocassion and come back to us soon. Thanks again and welcome to our little forum. :)

I liked your post until you got to the "damned to hell" comment. From what I understand no one is condemned to hell. Some people may shy away from the light but eventually the light always prevails. We are spirits of free will but we are strongly guided by our guides both here and in the afterlife. Spirits are always encouraged to stand in the light nad many do. This is the battle that goes on from the beginning of time - good vs. evil. Although the battle rages on the light always prevails.

This is not a criticism of your comments, just an opinion based on my experiences and communications with those souls who have made the journey before us.

I really enjoyed your post and I think you are right on. Most spirits will not communicate unless they are asked. In fact many are pleasantly surprised when they find out that you can see and hear them. I think that many people carry on their attributes to the afterlife - if someone is a troublemaker in life then they may carry on the same way in spirit form. This explains why we have some spirits who may be a pain the lower extremities. However, even these "troublemakers" must follow the rules and cannot in any way harm anyone. I think they may enjoy the fact that they scared the living daylights out of someone. When I encounter one who is rude or impolite - I ask them to leave and then tell my spirit guides to keep them out until they can behave.

Well i never had a spirit that was rude or impolite :) or really got mean in anyway, but we have had a child spirit that liked to play with the shower water :) that was fun from hot to sheer cold! and my brother in law that liked to spook me here and there with odd things and scare the living daylights out of me! :) but nothing major really..
So you kind of put them in a mini time out then, that is really kewl you can do that! ;) I guess they can be like kids then? Keep them out till they behave :) I like that and how you have such good control of it and able to keep your home and spirits in harmony that is awesome!
Thanks again for sharing..

Thank you for welcoming me. It is refreshing to be able to speak openly about my experiences. It is sometimes a difficult path we walk when gifted with the ablity to communicate. I think many who have the gift will agree with me that it is sometimes overwhelming. However, I would never want to give the gift back. The nicest thing about having a healing gift and the ability to communicate is the understanding that the power of healing comes from the Light and we are mere delivery people. I hope to communicate often here with people and to read and share their experiences.

Oh, I have a visitor in my kitchen quite often. She lived in my home 145 years ago and comes around when my grand nephews stay over. She loves children and is most pleased whn she can hear their laughter throughout the house.

Here is a picture of one of the rooms in my house (before we renovated) and you can see the orbs very clearly.